GodOfEntity

I second this request for revert.

No, it's not true, the Rednim team is actively hunting botters. I don't think you should be able to get rich at low levels the same way you can get rich at high levels. There should be things that high levels do better, because they worked for that. I think that for those that want to enjoy the leveling process, there should be more for those people. But in the same way that lvl 40 set is account locked. I think that stuff that is of high value that low levels could farm, should be account locked, because again, the risk vrs reward. - It's too risky to bot with a high level account. But to make 30 level 30 accounts is very easy. Botting needs to be negated, and unfortunately a very effective way of doing that, is making it so that the value in farming is with a high level char. Thus, the punishment of a banned char, really sucks. If an argument is, "so many high levels are botting" --- Just wait until there's great value of being lvl 40, just watch the influx of botters then. It would be great if those dragon scales dropped in GoS. It's quite upsetting that is currently not the case. I would love to see GoS be a map that is more used. (THOUGH I REALLY HATE THE AOE STUNS) Depends on what you view as successful. If you genuinely don't enjoy being a high level, which is... Odd because it's sort of the point of a game like this. Is to literally grind out to max, and then enjoy being big and strong. But anyways, if that's not what you enjoy, I do agree that there should be more quests and stuff, but, added value shouldn't be coming low levels getting rich from farming. That's just silly. Why would people ever get to max level then if farming is better on a low level char? My suspicion now, is that there are several people that may be involved in RMT, that is wanting more value in botting on newer chars, so that they don't risk their main accounts botting. Not saying that this is true for everyone that wants this. But, random fact, SUVs killed 500 kids in the USA over 10 year time span (this seems irrelevant, but it brings into a point I am trying to make) This is because, simply put, the automotive industry is incentivized by money, to sell Americans that sort of vehicle. Money, money incentives people to make poor choices. SUVs are super dangerous! ... Harder to load than a station wagon. But they marketed Station wagons as lame! Marketing SUVs as cool, simply so they could make more money!... (Check out NotJustBikes on YT "These Stupid Trucks are Literally killing us" ) --- Point I am getting at, is people in this forum are romanticizing low levels being able to farm and get rich. When the reality of that is, a far worse devastation to the economy. Because people will use their high levels to wash the zullies being farmed by bots. (this suspicion doesn't equate that everyone that wants this sort of thing, is involved in RMT. ) There's financial reason for a large group of people, to romanticize low levels being able to farm loads of zullies. - But do not let that fool you, it's a bad idea, for low levels to be better at farming than high levels. Should the "slow way" of leveling to 200 be improved? heck yes. Imagine having quest rewards that gave none tradable, level specific refine materials !? -- What do you define as successful right now? You seem to not want to define successful as getting a full level appropriate set? You seem to be defining success as being RICH. -- which sincerely, should come from, well, getting max level. - Low levels shouldn't be getting rich. They should be getting enough to get level appropriate stuff. Human mentality though, has a FOMO aspect to it. Which forces you to want to level to max. Which, isn't such a bad thing. But, arguing that, that is a bad thing, that the game incentives people to get max level, as being, an awful thing. Is just. Silly. Leveling your first char, to lvl 200+ is, quite a chore. Once you're max, the thought of doing it again is kind of dreadful. Those lower level unique, are great incentives to make another char. Personally, I like using a rock launcher at lvl 20 to make a new char. Then switching to AOE for that class at around lvl 50 or so. (also, farming unique is a way of getting good stats on unique weapons) You learnt the hard way, with a group of friends, and have now a shared memory that you can look back on, and hopefully laugh off. Punished, is very harsh wording. You're down on yourself about it, but I wouldn't say you're punished. Though, agreed, farming in DoD should have better results Anyways, I've put more thought into this than I should have. If you'd like help leveling or need any help in the game whatsoever, shoot me a msg; GodOfEntity, God0fEntity, GodOfKnight, GodOfArtisan. Cheers, and best wishes.

A problem with low levels being valuable, is it's easier to remake a new char after being banned, - Thus, Botting is more of an issue at lower levels, it's a higher risk for a high level to be banned botting, than it is for a low level. This is a really silly reason why it's important the game remains the same, but, this is a very, very valid point. Personally I don't see very high value farming low level mob places. I'd rather farm CoU, or other DG's. -- As much as like to go farm low level mob once in a while. It's not what I enjoy doing. But hey. I don't particularly like leveling. But its something I do because I like the results of leveling. Which tends to be the theme for a game that is mostly grinding.

I wrote 6. Though I intend on making more. I created a Champion with a Cleric, to help the cleric level. -- Then I made a knight and an Artisian (really bad idea to level those two as a pair) Next I'll make a Bourg and a Cleric. (For an old friend, that I'll also use myself) After that I'll make another Bourg and another cleric. The Artisan is simply so that I can have one, and make red pots, blue pots. Get good stats for gear. The Bourg I will be making to farm Chems with. - The Cleric and Knight are for running DG depending on what the party will need. The second cleric is to have a battle cleric as a full support, the 3rd cleric is technically the second cleric which is for my friend. Eventually I will also level a mage. I like to understand the difference between the classes on a deeper level. It's really easy to see a very good player, and think, that class is very strong. But it's a different story to try to mimic what that good player has done. It's very easy to think that someone is bad at knight, because you've seen someone very good at it. Ect. I also sort of enjoy the grind. Eventually I'll also make a Katar raider, a duel wield raider, a scout, and xbow scout. --- I will, work on having each subclass of every class. Why? idk. I enjoy the game, and I like that Rednim strongly believes against Pay To Win. As long as they continue to run like that, I will continue to support the game by putting item mall costumes on every account that I make.

Barely ever happens; And, game breaking, happens all the time, can't even level. Two very different things. The later, doesn't happen. Someone is farming here, and now I have to go to a different spot because I am now being minorly inconvenienced, isn't game breaking. Also, you actually think there's a no comparable difference between a lvl 250 char, and a lvl 250 char with 4 different sets of PvM, with 4 different PVM weapons, ect. --- ??? Cause yeah, a freshly lvl 250 doesn't stand a chance against someone with specific offensive weapons, fully gem, ect. lol. First hit gets it, being gone, is game breaking. Someone being able to farm Jelly Beans, at max level, isn't game breaking the same way not being able to farm end gear, gear, because the only people that can, are people that are end game gear. Wanna talk about a real problem, lets shine light on something that's actually game breaking lol.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1744844006?t=00h27m33s Maybe a better start time? idk. Maybe I can find a clip of how to deal with it, when it does happen though? -- There was a guy that was taking my farm in Luna, we went to a different spot. They did NOT continue to KS. (My point I am trying to make is that even though being KS'ed sucks, if you think it's bad at low level, wait until you do boss farming, maybe its better you're pre-pared for what to expect at a higher level) (Four nearly max level chars. Low level, leveling has not been an issue for me, still)

It shows a high level farming pumpkins. While I am trying to level a noob. But, they are not taking my mobs. In fact, they're being careful to NOT kill the mobs near me.

I don't care how many people tell me that 1+1=3. One plus one, does not equal three, there being lots of people willing to tell me a lie, doesn't make the lie correct. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1744844006?t=00h30m57s That is my video evidence, I can make more video evidence, proving that there are people here on these forums. Lying about high levels being places being an issue, when it is not one. Why? I think that there is a large group of people (possibly private server owners) wanting to destroy what is good about NA rose (like the first hitting) Sorry, that I seem to be the only voice that is willing to argue with people that believe 1+1 = 3 . But at the very least, I am willing to hear you out, so please, rather than insulting me in whatever reactionary way you can. Show me, some evidence. [quote="NF"] Listening to what your heart says (your heart says) Standing up for what you know is (is) Right, while everybody else is (is) Tucking their tail between their legs (okay) [/quote] (lol, okay dude, is passive aggressive words. Passive aggressive words are used in order to gaslight people, which re-inforces my belief that the small group of people that want to take away this type of farming from people, is in fact, a group of sadistic narcissists. That enjoy taking away the joy that others are having. The real problem you people have(rip Don Cherry career) is that others are finding joy in something, and you simply wish to take that away from them, because you don't have the patience to reach max level, or you wish to use a bot to farm at low levels and wash it with your main destroying the economy)

People make things into an issue that are a none issue. -- Example; Last hitting. People ruined that being a thing because an overwhelming amount of people (seemingly) complained about it. However, it completely ruined boss farming. Making it EVEN HARDER for people that are lower level to farm bosses. A 30 year old dating an 80 year old. People complain about this sort of thing. As if they have some sort of right to tell other people how to live their lives. Prove to me that this is hindering your game. Don't just tell me it is, because I don't believe you. Prove to me, they are TAKING MOBS from you(I don't believe that is happening) , that they're not just, at the spot, their simple existence is a nuisance to you. Lots of people complain about lots of things in order to destroy other peoples happiness. I'm not understanding why humans do this to other humans. (Sadism probably) -- But what brings others joy, that causes you an annoyance, doesn't mean that you, or the several people complaining, are the ones correct. People (generally speaking) that are enjoying something specific, tend not to complain or fight for their rights. Many human beings tend to be pacifists. - Which is why often times, Sadistic people that enjoy taking away others joys, will often be victorious in their silly adventures to torment the rest of society from a happy life. I want you to prove that you and this small group of people are right, prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt. If you cannot do that, consider that you're wrong.

I am selfish because I enjoy farming in Cave of Goblin? I'm not sure why you think that personally attacking me makes you correct and me wrong. I do not agree that Kill Stealing is correct. But devs removed first hitting (Something imo they shouldn't of removed) Kill Stealing wasn't possible when first hitting was a rule of thumb. I asked for a video to show me proof of your claims, rather you attack me as a person, rather than provide me proof of your claim.

I go there the odd time to farm for Medallions, sometimes I farm for chems there too. Not the worst place in the world to farm as a high level, but there are also better places. - But often times the better places, don't have spots open. - For consistent decent loot, Goblin Cave is pretty good. (But most certainly, not the best) You're saying this is a bad thing for me to enjoy farming at Goblin Cave? idk why you'd want to take that from me and others that enjoy it. Botting is a super big issue that is constantly being addressed. I assure you though, botters are getting banned on a constant basis.

Can someone please record this issue happening for more than just, one occurrence? Example, this is a video of a high level player, intentionally KS'ing our mobs simply to grief us https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1746700910 (that video WOULDN'T be an example, even if it SEEMS like it would) On a basic level, this sort of behavior is kind of aloud. However, if they would have followed us to the second spot as I explained in the video, it would have then been harassment, and they would have been at risk of being banned for that. You don't own the spots in this game. An unfortunate reality. - I WAS HERE FIRST, doesn't apply to people that do more damage than you, that extends to max level too. Trust me, the game doesn't get any less KSey. ( You waited for 30 minutes for a boss spawn? GG here comes 2 Envy clan members that out DP your 4 man group. ... Its okay though, now you have a 10 man Party, you're at the next boss for 30 minutes, got the Hiara's Tear quest to do, Nope, here comes Dystopia with two 10 party groups and that loot is most CERTAINLY not yours now. Yeah, this game has it's frustration moments. Trust me, I get it. If you can't have patience for that kind of stuff in low level, you surely are not going to have patience for it when it comes to max. Though, I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. - GodOfEntity 247 (Champion) God0fEntity 243 (Cleric) GodOfArtisan 229 (Artisan) GodOfKnight 236 (Knight)

I have 4 accounts that are lvl 240 + -- During the leveling process of each of those accounts NEVER did I experience high levels KS'ing me. (Except for the one time in Luna a botter got mad and started grieving me, because I kick them from party) I think you have an issue where you think maps are supposed to empty, and only for you. If that's the case, you're playing an online game. Not a single player game here. If someone is already in a spot, by definition, they cannot KS you, you're attempting to KS them and failing at it. Look for a spot that doesn't have anyone farming. There is lots of places that high levels are not. If you cannot find a spot to farm, record a video, and post it. Because I simply don't believe you. You're just one of many people, trying to destroy this game exclaiming an issue that isn't real. Or you're someone with very little patience that wouldn't last very long in a game like this regardless. This game, is a game that requires patience, and determination. I'm sorry that you just don't have what it takes to play this game.

Having to create multiple accounts because you need more storage space is, beyond an inconvenience. It's game breaking. It's not fun. Forcing people to spend money so that they can store items in a game based souly on farming. Personally, I'm willing to spend the money if they gave it to us for free, as a donation. But if they make everyone pay, it'll just show the path the game is going on. Item mall skills aren't pay to win, because they can be traded. Let's convince ourselves what isn't pay to win so that we can have convenience! ...

Anything can be argued it's "not pay to win". If it makes the game more convenient though, it essentially has a pay to win aspect to it. Just make the premium storage unlock with a quest. (imagine you have to finish the entire quest line to unlock Premium storage that you can open anywhere in the game!?) Prompt users upon using the storage to consider subscribing. Message; "While this game is free to play, storing your information is costly, please consider paying monthly at https://ko-fi.com/rednimgames?fbclid=IwAR13v9FwPsgVdFSAgl9pyiYUMZhCPYEcuodR19ATFerTMjFniGX6l1mOBDA#tier16780277533890 " But maybe use a smaller link than that. cause wow that's long. Show them monthly donation link, EVERY TIME (maybe once per logged in) someone uses the storage. If they're subscribed, they won't get the reminder. Kind of like the Winzip reminder to buy winzip. As much as I would LOVE to pay for storage(And believe me I would) --- Anything that feels even the slightest bit pay to win, after what happened with WarpPortal ROSE. Is not a way to do things here.

I think that being the best farmer in the game is supposed to come at a sacrifice of being squishy. Though, I feel like Gun Bourg should be stronger in PvP against Raiders. I'm just not sure how the balencing with that would work.

3rd job! ...

Something I kind of enjoy, is actual power leveling. Something about, getting all of the gear for lvl 1 - 200, planning ahead, making sure all the gear is as strong as I possibly can, and just, absolutely demolishing power leveling. This seems super silly to enjoy, but eh!! ... I'm still sort of, working on trying to make it as fast as possible, but once I do, I will put out a guide on how to power level as someone with an already max level char. As annoying as leveling is, I kind of enjoy it.

Re-installing the game didn't fix the issue. - Re-installing windows seems to have resolved the issue.

I still get this error after trying the solution offered by Avatar, re-installing rose now.

There are more than 8 char types possible, with all the different combo's as well, we're looking at, at LEAST 14 different options, for you to try, all of them (Spear Champ, Axe Champ, Sword, Battle cleric, Full support, Xbow scout, bow scout) You say you've experienced everything, but have you? Why don't you have one of everything?

"I've reached the end game of a game that is only half way finished and now I am expecting more from it" Patience.

Do dragon scales even drop in this game, or is it valor only item?

Kids are pretty intuitive with things. If I had kids, and they seen me playing, I'm sure they'd learn how to multi-client very quickly. I can't understand this need to limit what other people can do though. Why force people to be handicapped on clients, I just don't get it. What's so important to limit players ability to enjoy mutli-clienting? Look how Happy I am there with 11 clients open. I'm on top of the world happy!

You're officially my favorite person in the world. Thank you. lol.