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Cha is always worth something, I'd say just as a base substat, it's worth about 600k-950k -- what is armor is it on, I might buy it

I guess I just don't see the necessity of it personally when zullies should be spent on enchanting with elements first imo. But, idk. I guess mutliple ways of playing the game @Madelline I'm not a noobie, I'm just dumb But yes, this is the second time learning about restorative effects and it still feels like the first time, like the very first time.

Consider that many of us are just starting out. Do you actually feel like the HP/MP recovery built into it, is worth 160m more zullies?

They're not actually that great. Eudy Fairy wings have higher dodge! ... not by much. I guess I am just writting this so that people don't make themselves go broke buying an over hype item that's not really that awesome. When the alternative is... Much cheaper and quite decent. I wrote something in a Discord place that I dont' want to type again, so here's the screenshot.

These are the questions the community just, needs to know, please @lazypenguin, Answering these questions would help the community make sense of things that need clarity. (I find a common problem in the community is misinformation, I'd like to have somewhere in the game were people do not mislead others) Does over dmg effect to passives? Does a drop set require most dmg, first hit, or just, damaging the mobs? Does stockpile require first hit to apply, or does it apply when dmg is done to mob? Over damage is supposed to make it that the party that over damage can also get the loot, while first hit can always still get the loot if they try to loot it, correct? (In other words, over damage will let BOTH parties take loot, and it's whoever gets to the loot first wins) Is this drop table correct? Does DG have a different drop compared to outside of DG? Is Lisent U - Common, Uncommon; Or is it Legendary in Dungeons? https://roseonline.fandom.com/wiki/Drop_Tiers_Explained

I really wanted to love xbow knight, but compared to one handed. It's just, so bad.

Most people are farming zullies more than they are farming for items. I believe that soon people will shift from farming zullies to farming items (in order to farm zullies) -- I think that this shift in farming is important to happen, that prices will start to come to more of an equalize soon. I don't know, I'm not certain. But, this thought is helping me sleep better at night, rather than tossing and turning in worry.

Gems that you can put into an item, that WONT remove current substat of an item, however, just give the item a certain glow effect depending on the "gem" it is. Item not tradable while gem is in it, and requires an item mall item to remove it. Though I am genuinely suggesting this only, because seeing my slotted weapon with nothing in it, is genuinely driving me insane. EMPTY SLOT NEEDS SOMETHING IN IT. *tries to calm himself* I

I believe EVENT items can also be disassembled for Jupiterunes.

I've learnt of a faster way to do full CoU clear. I'll be showing that soon. While I am aware of many other places to farm, I'm working on my Knight, Champion and Cleric - Before I start my Bourg, Friday the 31rst! (Live on Twitch) Which I made a VERY special launcher to make with! I still have to make the Launchers from 120+(or so) It seems as though, that for me PERSONALLY, farming DG's is currently my best place for farming. Until I make a bourg personally, I will not be exploring too much of the other parts of ROSE. Sorry these videos particularly don't suit your fancy, hopefully I eventually create something you like to see!

To me it shows some of the information you explain in great detail, into an easy to understand chart, made easier to understand through your explanation. Some people can read what you wrote, and understand it without needing anything else. To me, having that chart along with your information, is needed for me to fully understand. I personally am kind of slow to understanding. It's like rephrasing yourself to help others understand what you're saying. It also gives the information you've given, faster than reading it.

I think in the same way it shows Elements beside bosses names, it should show on the right hand side defensive element, and on the left hand side offensive element on player names. It not being visible in any ways shape or form, sort of removes the depth that those items are supposed to add to the experience. imo. (also, will help players learn what scrolls to use for which DG, currently, the understanding for elemental scrolls I think is lacking for most players. ) I think PVP is a struggle in of its own, and I'm not sure about the effects on PVP, so maybe have this not show in PVP. But, I personally am not against it being shown in PVP, and would be interested to see the thoughts on both sides of the desires.

@HoneyBuns Would you be able to add this chart to your guide than delete this response after?

SEN, I believe. (Thanks to Phish_ now I know I believed wrong)

Truth be told. I haven't spent enough time with all the different classes to have a really valid argument for any of this. So, ima just be out of this conversation until like, 2 or 3 months from now. But generally speaking, I feel like people tend to say "Oh this is broken" - without taking a harder and closer look at things. Mages were once completely useless, now that they have viability, people seem to complain and want it destroyed. I'm not saying that peoples statements don't have complete validity to it, I guess my other point is. If I feel like I haven't played the game enough to form a better opinion on this; Have others played the game enough?

I guess my point is, that one of the arguments from the other side is a resounding, this is the best job class in the game, it makes all other job classes unplayable. -- If that is a true statement, why doesn't what people are playing, reflect that? Personally I'd much rather two bourgs a champ, a knight, and a cleric, in a DG than a mage.

Which other chars have you made to level 240+ that gives you this in depth understanding that I personally couldn't possibly have? I have, 249 Champion, 249+ Cleric, 240 + Knight, 239 Artisan. --- I will be working on a Bourg/Mage next. (However, in naRose, Bourg was my main) Do you have a mage?

Bourg dmg is supposed to come with a trade off. They're supposed to be glass cannons.

Until they've worked out next levels, next planet, ect. Uh... yeah, there's better value in keeping 8th grade exactly the place its at right now for the state of the game, until next planet is launched. You realize the game isn't done yet. This isn't end game. Max level isn't 250. The max level in this game may end up being lvl 400. Why do you need 9th grade to be worth something right this second? Is my explanation of why it's in a good state, currently, useless to you?

So, I'll be posting videos on how to run different DG's as different job glasses. This first video is a COU Full clear example. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1767402848 Other, hopefully better videos I will start to put out, I need to spend some time editing videos and such, But I wanted to get this one out, because I figured it's important that people see what high level farming looks like. There's a lot of frustration about high levels farming lower level stuff. But, I guess a point I want to make with this video is, this sort of farming in high level is sort of rare, takes time and patience to attain. Which is why often times its nice to just chill and farm low level mobs sometimes. (I honestly don't find it worth doing for the most part, not when you can farm the ways I am ... about to show in the videos I will be releasing )

If' it's not intentional, I hope it can be. I like it being 8th grade because it opens Marsh Of Ghosts for being a viable alternative to ruins, without having the gameplay experienced... Ruined. - level fast in ruins, or get rich in ghost. Honestly, should be the two options imo.

How much do you pay?

Which clan are you in. Can I join it and run on the regular with yah? ahem xD

As someone that plays dealer as well and has run out of bullets while inside a DG because, I also struggle with being an idiot. I disagree that it's my job when I am playing dealer. -an NPC that sells Ammo/Arrows... WOULD BE AWESOME. (not pots tho, that's too far)

I farmed listenHG from lvl 130 to lvl 160 or so? On two chars, had like 1,000 HG after. Everyone rush's CoU... I don't, (not always anyways) I actually like to farm it with bourgs. I've got 141 Listent U, 75 listent G right now. --- ( I also just refined a weapon to 13) The gem prices are going to drop for the next year while it gets farmed. Its supposed to drop. Supply is suppose to go up while demand goes down. That is the way of the game. As people get better with farming, you'll notice prices will start to drop. Also, if you spam Ulverick really fast, is another way to farm Listent U... I haven't farmed in ruins, those are clan controlled locations. Join the clans that run it. idk. I'm enjoying the game, personally. (Personally I think Prices will go up and down, but generally speaking, prices will start to go down on everything once they cap out for a bit)