hjvg Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) there is a lot of talking about dual client fixes and because of that a lot of classes are being changed. some people see that as inporvement and some dont see it as inprovement. (i dont want to start the good or wrong thing here) but if you really want to fix the dual clienting /multiclient make it just that you can run 1 client. thats in my eyes the real fix for that and then you still can see how you change classes Edit: after a discusion in discord i have been told 2 clients are alowd because of shops. but the feeling i had in the chat that most are going to dual client and dont use it for a shop as there are other ways to sell items the $ chat or a forum topic Edited November 27, 2022 by hjvg discosion in discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critpeak Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Considering that currently there is no offline vending, and you can't really limit clients to a number, because there are several ways to bypass any ip/hardware limitation. Saying that people wouldn't need to use multiple clients it's a sort of needed reason to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjvg Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Critpeak said: Considering that currently there is no offline vending, and you can't really limit clients to a number, because there are several ways to bypass any ip/hardware limitation. Saying that people wouldn't need to use multiple clients it's a sort of needed reason to say. i edit on the same time you posted but yea the feeling i get in discord is that the most say we dont really need it for a shop we will use it for dual client as we are used to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critpeak Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Only way to to "fix" this is to limit clients that can be used to 1 - but regarding to current class changes and how this game have worked for so long time. I don't see any of those things as a fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazypenguin Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 We wanted to limit it to 1 client but after talking with players we conceded that two would be better for the time being, main reasons: - Without offline vending, you can't play and open your shop at the same time - Players who like to make an Artisan as a second job like to be able to do artisan stuff while still being available on their main account (e.g. queue for dungeon, game arena, etc.) - With the current storage system, even with max expansion coupons, players who collect a lot of items literally run out of places to store their items These are some of the things we would like to address before considering a 1 client limit. I'm sure there are other reasons but these were the ones that popped into my head. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjvg Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, lazypenguin said: We wanted to limit it to 1 client but after talking with players we conceded that two would be better for the time being, main reasons: - Without offline vending, you can't play and open your shop at the same time - Players who like to make an Artisan as a second job like to be able to do artisan stuff while still being available on their main account (e.g. queue for dungeon, game arena, etc.) - With the current storage system, even with max expansion coupons, players who collect a lot of items literally run out of places to store their items These are some of the things we would like to address before considering a 1 client limit. I'm sure there are other reasons but these were the ones that popped into my head. - Without offline vending, you can't play and open your shop at the same time True but when your afk you can stell setup your shop and there are more ways to sell items like a forum topic, the $ chat ingame. at the biggining of rose people where also not running multiple clients for shops i think most people will use the second client not for the shops but to let a other char leech while lvling. (this was also a bit the outcome of the talk in discord most people sayed yes i will go dual client instead of putting a shop up) and i think letting chars leeching while lvling was 1 of your biggest reasons to change classes. as you did not want that anymore Edited November 28, 2022 by hjvg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Let us just play and see what it gives! It's still Early Access. However I feel like this improvement on classes will be a huge succes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloWorld Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) MMORPG would be healthy and alive when dual client is disabled WHY? because if dual client is enabled it would lead to laziness e.g. if Dual Client Enabled> We will just create Main Character and a Slave healer/support, Support role will be substitute by Dual Client players Its more fun the game would be alive to its finest when you are with Party of Single Client players especially Support Role/Job also the reason to minimize lag and abuse i see Single Client gaming would be a win win for everyone Edited December 21, 2022 by Chicka2k23 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloWorld Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Support healthy and alive gaming community by making Single Client only cheers real gamers no to robot, afk, alt tabers 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayun Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 game has many other bigger issues to solve than caring about this also, once they do implement offline vending, they may also work on dual client issue, this has been repeated more than once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adept55 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I agree, lets remove Dual Client, when 2 people want to bring their healbots into the PT that takes up 4 slots for 2 people, which makes it harder for everyone else to find groups in areas. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prettywomanlover Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) nobody would play cleric if they disable duel clienting. People only use them to support their other character, They are not fun at all and are stressful anymore with no buffs and such weak heals. And if you dont want to duel client then don't It should be an option and has since the beginning of rose. You new players have terrible suggestions. Edited December 21, 2022 by prettywomanlover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Dual clienting was allowed back in the day and it was healthier and more alive than ever. This argument seems flawed.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1990 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) This might be tackled along with offline vending soon. You cant just remove dual clienting because people also wanna sell stuff while grinding and it's not possible to do simultaneously at this stage. Edited December 21, 2022 by jattyy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokki Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, prettywomanlover said: nobody would play cleric if they disable duel clienting. People only use them to support their other character, They are not fun at all and are stressful anymore with no buffs and such weak heals. Disagree. There are people who main clerics. Disabling dual clienting would also encourage people to become clerics, because I believe dual clienting takes away from those who wish to main them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloWorld Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Wokki said: Disagree. There are people who main clerics. Disabling dual clienting would also encourage people to become clerics, because I believe dual clienting takes away from those who wish to main them. Yes if dual client is disabled you cannot login your slave buffer support real player will catch up their true role as a real player support job/character in party not yourself too get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloWorld Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, prettywomanlover said: nobody would play cleric if they disable duel clienting. People only use them to support their other character, They are not fun at all and are stressful anymore with no buffs and such weak heals. And if you dont want to duel client then don't It should be an option and has since the beginning of rose. You new players have terrible suggestions. its alternate mate if Dual Client is disabled you will have Real Player role is Support Healer, not yourself nor your Dual Client character also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexxa Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Yeah please, remove dual clienting, this is once again killing the game from it's root. SUPPORT THIS!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloWorld Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Real Gamers = Single Client No Life gamers= Dual Client using their own characters talking themselves, partying themselves, healing, buffing, supporting themselves. FREE yourself come on, Its more fun when you are with Real Players not with ALT. Edited December 21, 2022 by Chicka2k23 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FURION Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Yes i agree to it. Disable dual client! People who use 2accounts logged in takes 2 party slots wherein it can be used by a player who is more tentative to 1 role 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andramias Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) I agree! and IM a dual client user. I feel forced to do that to level another char and grind more but i belive in the optimals changes for everyone. Edited December 21, 2022 by Andramias confusion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleRose Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 AGREED!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddox Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, DoubleRose said: No. Say no more, your name says it all xD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andramias Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, DoubleRose said: No. Hey man, first things first. We know that we need a AH or a broker to solve many of the dual client adventages. So calm down and post yes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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