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yes i have seen it before try to run the game as administrator. i think it does not have write acces to the folder

i was also supprised by the drop tables here every map i enter i was now i probley dont get that anymore ow they still drop here never seen that before in this map. i still have a lot to learn with this version of rose (not sure if i ever will as i already did not lvl for 2 weeks) now i read this topic ow that why people dont bother to pick up the drops in the maps. there are so many difrent drops in the maps (because everything drops in every map) that your etc room is full verry fast and yea it gives you some money but yea the repeatable quest where giving a lot of money as well. then why spending time on picking up items when you can earn more while doing a quest and you can buy the item if you need it anyway. for me personly 1 of the fun things of rose was you needed to look where somthing was dropping you made a lvl / farm plan on that but now its just a exp race to max lvl. and when you there you just go and ks on lo lvl maps if you really want to farm somthing. (because why would you kill a worm dragon with 1.2mil hp when its yellow if you can get the same drop when you are lvl 250 and do way more damage)

thats not right there have always been quest in rose. they added a few quest here where you need x amount of mobs to recieve money or exp but as a lot of people say as they can be (abused) used in a few ways atm and the amounts of exp they give there is no point in going to maps`s where those quest are not avaible. But the problem is if they keep nerfing those quest with out a reset its only getting harder for me to ever get near max lvl

i know what bridging is but that was done for exp (and you first needed to make all the chars) her you can just invite them the exp will be disabled but with the repeatable quest that give exp or money you can just let the high lvl do the killing for you. i donnt see any reason why someone needs to be able to party a char with a lvl difrentce more then 30 lvl if you do its in 98% of the casses to abuse somthing

open yous skill tree go to item mall skills and there it is (its free)

i have to agree that the communication could use a real boost indeed today there has never been a official word about putting the servers down. only 1 hour before it went down that they knew there where isseus. hen 10+ hours quet and you need to find out in general discord that the server has been up already for a while. when i login there where about 150+ shops in junon so today no offical word that the server went down and then when they booted the server there was 1 smal message in a channel that got 50 messagege every 5 min it feels a bit that they expect us to check the game every 5 min (and see if you can login or not) if you want to be in fast after server is up to setup a shop or somthing edit: and the people that dont use discord (yes there still people that dont have it) did not hear anything for about 20 hours about the down time So please dont forget to inform the the people that only use the forum for info aswell

i got the feeling this event was from na rose late state and did not got changed to the early state the game is in atm the money in a game after a few years is way more then most people have now (expect the few that where able to got big quest rewards) (i did had the feeling with x-mas event as well i was lvl 30 and got around 10 items from 1 mob on santa planet and i see a high lvl atk a mob and get way more items way faster. killed the fun for me in the event)

We see alot of quest being nerved and the lvl range of quest getting smaller and smaller. like the clown quest now Clown Quest Restrictions (lvl 50-60) but with a normal good party you want to lvl there from about lvl 35 till 55. i think the problem is not the quest and by changing the quest requiments every time you only make it harder for the slower lvling people. i think the real problem with this is that people that did lvl fast and got the advantage from those quest bevore are now using those quest to boost there lo lvl char. they add there lvl 150+ char in party with there lvl 30 char (if i thake the clown quest but it can already be done on lvl 1 on other quest) and just put there lo lvl there and kill the mobs with the high lvl till the quest is done on the lvl 30 char delivere the quest and repeat. i think it just should not be possible to add chars with a lvl difrents like that in a group/party. so i would like to suggest to add a lvl cap on party/group of a max difrents of 30 lvl`s then you dont have to change all the quest and the lo lvl`s can still enjoy them

i think thats a other problem then we are talking here about atm. here we are talking about the quest that got changed are requested to get changed because it gives to much exp or money just when normal lvling. but some (me included) got the feeling the high lvl`s first use this quest and when they can not use it anymore they ask for a change so they got the benefits but the people that are still trying to reach that quest are not having the benefits what you are saying here is in the party group system they are able use(abuse) atm you dont need to have the quest to give items to other people in the party/group. So you put a high lvl in party with a lo lvl and you do the killing with the high lvl (grey mobs) but your lo lvl gets quest items and can easy lvl /earn money that way its mostly used to lvl new chars faster then normal

i agree with @OwlchemistViledoonga /krafy got nerverd bevore i was even close to that quest i am still not there but a lot of people had advantage of it those same people have the advantage of all the other quest and when they can not use it anymore they ask for changes so the players that have less time and new players (if they come). is not able to get the same amount of money or exp the others where able to get. this means that everyone that was not able to do those quest yet are having way more trouble getting to the same state as the people that did use it. i already did found prices dam high after 1 week and was asking my self how the hell do people even have that amount of money but then the nerf of doonga krafy quest came and i already had somting ok so if you no life you have a easy life here bucause your the person that is allowed to abuse quest and after that you report it to fix it

probley the status is right but servers are in dev mode i think

you would think but you also would think the maintance message would be in the announcement channel on the forum aswell

yea i think around 10 seconds would be good yes reading in chat is possible i know but when fighting / on a bussy place someone near you ask for party but try to find him when the message is gone as quick as it is atm. then you look in chat for the name and need to find out where he is standing. but if the ballon is longer there you just look for the ballon

some good suggestions i also find the hp/mp bar above someone`s head is to small and because of that its easy to overlook your party members you can even party really below your lvl but exp will be turned off then but its hard see if that happens (when there is being fighted at the same time the chat will be gone fast) also not sure if its true but you can invite a lot of members but i have been told when you got 7 or more in party the exp getting less? why then even allow more then 6 people?

the text balloon above your head is gone so quick that its almost not possible to read it while its there. when people are looking for party for example its easyer if the ballon stays longer above there head so you can find the person atm a text ballon is there only for about 3 seconds witch i think way to short to proper see/read it (i placed it suggestion but it could be a bug as well as how i remember it they stayed above your head longer)

i got the same feeling its still hard to get party it still looks like a lot of dual clienters as well. but getting a party as heal cleric is dam hard (and i feel a bit useless)

ATM you will need int and charm on your cleric to give the best heal (buffs that cleric still got) so nu much room to add a lot of dex to get speed and you need a reaider to get your mspeedbuff buffs are not removed to the game they are splitted to all classes so now you need not 1 char but all classes to get full buffs

But the buffs are not gone so as sayed bevore by others did removing buffs from cleric fix the problem of releying on buffs i think not as they are just moved to multiple chars but people chooche a class because of there play style and yes i understand the plan is to have them needed in raids and dungeons. But i got the feeling that the new expectation for clerics is that they will make a fighting char of it to lvl (so almost a mage) and its a question how many people want to have chars like that in a party as a main class fighter will be in 90% of the casses be stronger so faster leveling. but then when we are at the end content the clerics that have made it suddenly need to change there play style again from fighting to supporting to keep party`s alive. thats the thing i find strange about it. there is no other class that i know that need to change there build/play style when reacing the end content so kings have been made easyer as well? some people that support the changes are using but heal is needed for kings as well and there you can already be active as support but if i understand this correct they got nerved as well so they could be done easyer with out a cleric aswell edit: i have sayed bevore i will check the changes ingame but this is my feeling atm. and i will post my feeling when seeing it ingame as well. but atm the streams of clerics (sayed to be clerics) i have seen atm does not give me much hope my feeling about this topic will change alot but we will see

@Bobbityi can agree with your post but far as i have readed and have seen on stream today atm they only removed the unique part of the cleric (yes you got heal) and people are saying yea but your important to heal others that are just 1 or 2 skills (for end game things). and saying yes you can add battle skillss now yea buit thats not unique. so yea if they make cleric unique again it could work but as far as i see atm its not happening atm its like removeing all atk skills from a knight and give them a defense buff and tell them you but you can still tank

yes it does because you think when leveling nobody loses buffs ? candel ghost takes it you get a new weapon you dye from time to time as well. so yea its not just buffing every 15 mins and while lvling buff duration is not 15 min yet and most buffs will have difrent durations whitch means you have to update the buffs way more

its a muse build as a mage yea the lvl`s he is doing atm is still the easy part job does not matter much but the char is build as a mage. but he calls it cleric. how do you expect people that need to be active in fighting to get till the point he can do dungeon or raid to then just stand still and only heal as heal slaves for the party? a cleric was supporting from lvl 10 till endgame so you where alrso focused on your party members to give them buffs or heal when needed. but with this new build you need to be focused on killing mobs on a cleric till the moment other people need you somewhere to heal. i i think i know why the vote has no`s then yes as the people that where just using the cleric as leecher and let it stand afk think we have to lvl 1 char less becasue i want all fighter classes and i am not going to heal in a dungeon anyway so i dont care 1 char less to lvl the people that vote yes are mostly the people that played the cleric as main char whitch where ofcourse already less people. yes i will probley be logging in ingame when its online. but as far as i have seen today on the live stream i dont think it will be long till i am done with my muse wannebe cleric and then the game is done for me aswell. and yes they can change it after its live but i am not going to wait a half a year till the change and a full server reset has been done as the change is so big that it can not be added with out a whipe or at least everyone needs a stat and skill reset when a change like this is inplented after being live

buff and heal was fun when your main char is cleric thats why you chooche it. buffs went up from 3 min to 10min i think because people thought they where to short yes is you dual client ( multiboxing) you want longer buffs i think bringing the duration down of buffs. will make a cleric more active again. i dont see my self having fun when the only thing i can do is heal. i know people now gone say yes but you can also fight now. but i did play support cleric because that was for me the fun of rose. pressing skills to kill a mob a never had real fun with that removing the dual client (multiboxing) was a part of the rason tho change chars but they already changed the mind because people needed to be able to set up a shop so dual client will be allowd. i can already tell you there will not be muuch shops people still wil go for dual client leveling but its a bit offtopic in this channel sorry for that (but i got the feeling alot think buff slaves means cleric and thats why it every time goes about cleric again) i think the talk about the cleric suits better here

i think he is willing to play else he would not still be here i got the same. but i think he has the same as me and his main class wasx cleric and yes we know 90% of the community had not a cleric as main class and are happy they dont need to put this class as leecher anymore. but with giving crafting skills to other classes are killing a other class so then instead of 8 classes we will end up with only 6 classes ingame some people are only thinking you are allowd to give positive feedback. but i did not recieve any warning for negative feedback so i think thats allowd as well. so i dont know why you say that @Critpeakbetter can stop posting as he only has negative feedback in your eyes and you want a happy forum. i look at it mostly the same as him i dont see why everyone need buffs i dont see why everyone need to be able to craft

i would say dont even start with this. if you really want all classes to be able to craft why would we still have classes then you better ask to make 1 class that can do everything

- Without offline vending, you can't play and open your shop at the same time True but when your afk you can stell setup your shop and there are more ways to sell items like a forum topic, the $ chat ingame. at the biggining of rose people where also not running multiple clients for shops i think most people will use the second client not for the shops but to let a other char leech while lvling. (this was also a bit the outcome of the talk in discord most people sayed yes i will go dual client instead of putting a shop up) and i think letting chars leeching while lvling was 1 of your biggest reasons to change classes. as you did not want that anymore