[Client on parallels (mac OS) not allowed anymore]

Hello, sorry about that.

We will do some testing on our ends, but it seems Rose should still work with https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover/ for Mac users

[Personal feedback from an old player]

10 hours ago, Oxaliis said:

but to have taken away his glory from the clerics is a very very wrong choice, to have focused the players on a very few spots to do repeatable quest again and again until moving to another tiny spot and repeat the same process for hours is soooo depressing. Almost nobody are taking drops anymore, because the farming is dead.

 

Hello Oxaliis ,

Welcome back to this game, thank you very much for your feedback. Having spend most of our time on iRose version ourselves too and loving the game as much as you do, we share a lot of your feedback and frustration. This game still being on early access for now, we have the chance and time to still improve a lot of what you said before the official launch. While this version is very far from the iRose day, i think you nail the 2 big problems with the current state of the game

very few spots to do repeatable quest again and again:

We couldn't agree more, and we want to improve this linear experience of repeatable quest. While it is the most used route for leveling, players are not forced to do them, and can level up also going to other area. The problem is because there is no incentive for players to sacrifice a bit of XP from these quest to just level and try to loot some Mats/Stuff from other area. If we were to remove these repeatable for exemple, people will just go back to the most classic way of getting XP, focusing on area with the most mobs and who give the most XP.
But maybe the second point you made is also very linked to this "farming repeatable for xp" problem

nobody are taking drops anymore, because the farming is dead:

This version experienced a big Drop Revamp in his late stage before Rednim took this project, making the drops feel way to similar across mobs and Maps. While the idea was good on paper, players don't feel the need to farm some materials and items during their leveling like they used too, or farming feels all too similar across the game.
There are too many drops on mobs and mobs drop everything and nothing. There too many trash drops.
We have started to work on this problem to give back drop identity and meaning to mobs and maps. Fixing this will give incentive for players to go to other maps to farm specific items for different crafting recipes.
Also, making the artisan crafting kit more interesting and more things to craft should also help fix this problem. If there was more demande for specific items from artisans, people would feel the need to farm expensive materials on maybe more secluded maps

Removing of the Cleric buffs:

This is indeed a very controversial change that happened when we launched in Early access. Buffs were already spread on all classes and Cleric also had all the buffs too.
The buff are also nerfed massively compared to the iRose day.
We wanted to try to get away from this buff slave meta, knowing these buffs were not as much powerfull as they were. But we do also miss the feelings of buffing newbies.
While there is little chance that we would give Cleric theirs buffs back, they would still be weaker than the classes specific ones.


Rest assured that we are working hard and have plan already to improve a lot of what you said, because we play the game too and we couldn't agree more 

[Drop Table Guide]

We're writing this forum post to clarify the drop system. The system is very complicated compared to the experience many players have had over the course of Rose's history. We hope this post will become a reference for all players who still have questions, but also dispel some of the myths we've heard since the game's early access started.

Please bear in mind that this system is by no means definitive. On the contrary, it already has started to evolve and will continue to, but we want players to be able to give us feedback based on facts, so that we can improve it together.

But for this to happen, players need to have the best possible understanding of the system. The purpose of this article is not to give the keys to our database, nor to serve as a wiki. We just thought that some of the players who never played NaRose or never played Rose before are at a big disadvantage.

In a way, this post is a continuation of an article posted almost 10 years ago by Leonis.
We'll update this post as we change the drops and maybe the drop system in the future.

Drop Rate Penalty

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• Monster Level Diff <= 3 --> no reduction in drop chance (Yellow)
• Monster Level Diff <= 8 --> 10% reduction in drop chance (Green)
• Monster Level Diff <= 14 --> 25% reduction in drop chance (Blue)
• Monster Level Diff <= 21 --> 50% reduction in drop chance (light blue)
• Monster level Diff > 21 --> 75% reduction in drop chance (Gray)

When farming, if you're not in the exact range of a monster lvl, you will always be as a disadvantage, going from 10% reduction up to 75% reduction. Drop penalty applies only if a mob is lower level than you, not higher.

That means that players farming for mats, accessories or even mounts with their Max lvl characters will suffer a 75% reduction in drop rate if the mob they are killing is in grey color. That is the one of the reason people suffer these "no drop" feeling when farming in the open world.

Like in the iRose days, if you want to optimize your farming, you will need a character in the exact range of the monster you are looking to farm. but because the penalty is no 100%, it caused a LOT of confusion for players.
Yes you are able to farm with your Max LVL character everywhere you go for now, but bear in mind that this is the reason some drops feel very hard to get. if you want the best farm, you will need to make another character.

A simple rule to follow is --> "Until the monster I'm killing is not Green in color, my drop penalty is 0%, Green mobs --> 10% penalty"

There is still an ongoing debate in the community if the penalty for Gray mobs should be reversed from 75% to 100%

Drop Rate increase

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There are 3 mains ways players can increase their Drop chances -> Drop Gems, Clan drop Skill and the Bourgeois "Stockpile" skill

Stockpile

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Stockpile is a Passive exclusive to the Bourgeois class which when increased to it's max lvl (5) grants 25% chance to get an extra Drop. The Bourgeois class is the go-to class for farmers if they want to optimize their farming session.

Gems Drop

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Gems drop are the only ways for regular players to increase their drop chance, regardless of their class or their clan.
These gems are obtainable inside dungeons, or they can be bought from others players on the market.
They give a flat increase of drop for a specific tier and can be stacked.

There are Gems for every tier of drops:

• Common -> Combeite Pear
• Uncommon -> Umbite Baguette
• Rare -> Raspite Round 
• Very Rare -> Variscite Briolette
• Epic -> Esperite Cushion
• Legendary -> Legrandite Marquise

Theses gems need to be socketed inside the gear of the player and worn as regular equipment when killings monsters.

Clan Skills

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Clan skills are one of the best ways (with drop gems) for players to increase the drop chance of specific tiers of drops. These skills can only be bought by the Master and their Deputies inside a clan. Clans need clan points in order to buy them and their costs depends on the drop tier.

These skills are temporary passives that last 30 days and that need to be acquired again after they end. These skills benefit all players inside a clan for their entire duration. They are very powerful and the best farming clans farm clan points in order to maintain them. 

The best possible farmer is a Bourgeois with stockpile, wearing Drop gems, inside a clan with Drop skill passive, who uses NO-EXP scroll to stay at the same level as the mobs he is farming.

Drop System

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There are multiple tiers of drops in the game -> Common, Uncommon, Rare, Very Rare, Epic, Legendary

While these categories exist, not every monster in the game has them. Only Monster with stars in their name or Bosses will have access to the Epic and Legendary Categories.

Not every Monster or Bosses will have something useful in those categories, most times they will have filler drops.

Every single monster in the game has PERSONAL rates for every one of its own tiers,  and they vary between mobs. (This is not real %, just an example):

Random Mob Captain:

• Common (50%)
• Uncommon (35%)
• Rare (12 %)
• Very Rare (6%)
• Epic (1%)
• Legendary (0.3%)

Every time a player kills a mob, the game will roll a dice for every tier available for that mob. That means it is possible to get multiple loot from a single monster. This also means that it's perfectly possible for a player to not receive a single drop when killing a monster. This is particularly frustrating when it happens on a boss, for example.

After a successful roll, the game will pick, at random, one of the items available inside the category. The more possible items inside a category, the more difficult it is to get it.

Drop Tiers

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Common

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  • HP Point
  • MP Point
  • Ancient Coins
  • More trash drops

Uncommon

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  • Low Essence, Essence
  • Uncommon Mob specific drops: Devourer Plate, Fish Eggs ...
  • Grade Talisman, Bindrune and Apotrope
  • Metals: Iron, Silver Iron, Steel ...
  • Stones: Air Stone, Sandstone ...
  • Wood: Cinnamon Wood, Aromatic Wood ...
  • Leather: Thick leather, Sleek leather ...
  • Cloth: Linen, Denim ...
  • Prismatic Fibers
  • Prismatic Lattice

Rare

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  • Low Ether, Ether and Pink powders
  • Destruction, Mythril Drills
  • Rare Mob specific drops: Dragon Scales, Little Angel Feathers ...
  • Dirties: Spirituals, Crystals, Stones, Zodiac, Ore, Rune Stones, Hearts
  • Glistening Orb (S)
  • Prismatic Dust
  • Gems
  • Mounts

Very Rare

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  • Purple Powders
  • High Ether, Elixir
  • Orihalcon Drills 
  • Blue equipment and weapons

Epic

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  • Hime, Low Enthiric
  • Lisent HG
  • Adamantium Drill
  • Unique Weapons: Chakram, Shattered Hope, Dark Buster

Legendary

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  • Enthiric, Hermes
  • Lisent U
  • Glistening Orb (L)
  • Epic accessories: Nomadic, Crooked, Full Moon ...

Keep in mind that this information might not be 100% accurate and only applies to Open World monsters.
For dungeons and Clan fields, the categories might changes for certain items or a be completely different.

Historically, there never was 100% consistency in the system. We have started a long and tedious project to try to make the system more reliable and consistent, and will share and edit this post as much as we can as we update the drops.

We will also add the most common questions asked at the end of this post

[Farming in the current ROSE Online versions is dead.]

It's a huge problem indeed

In order for a game to feel good, you need to be able to immerse yourself into it. That's exactly the core of the problem. The drops need to make sense for a player to be able to figure out on his own where to search and what to kill.

Currently it's the exact opposite, it's feels like a casino, where the only variable that matters is how many mobs are you killing and how fast. 

But also, Rose nostalgia is a big part of why people are coming back to play. If old players can't even trust their own knowledge that they acquired a long time ago, they feel robbed of their own game

[Farming in the current ROSE Online versions is dead.]

We fully agree with most of the feedback from this thread, some of the changes we already worked on still have to hit Live Server. Here is our vision for the Drops :
 

• Get rid of this feeling that ALL the monsters still feels the exact same
• Keep cleaning the valor AND honor shop and adding back the items to their originals mobs (like we did for Little angel feathers)
• Remove the MANY inconsistencies ( ex: Bird feathers dropping from pumpkins....)
• Bring back Mob and Map identity which was taken away almost 15 years ago during the big drop revamp
• Bring back the "discovery/mystery", where players need to go and figure themselves like in the old days.

 

The main reason these changes take so long is that updating the drop tables are a tedious task, and require a lot of testing.
We need to prioritize these changes while taking into account all the other changes that also need to be implemented and that are not related to drops. It's all about time management and prioritizing the developers' development time. We're farming too, and we're looking forward to fixing the problems that our whole community is feeling.

Take a look at the community Feedback from back in the days. it's been 15 years of complaints. It was only a good system on Paper

[first gem 9 crafting experienced (failed attempt)]

The main problem regarding Gem crafting is the way chemicals / high con scales poorly. Like everything else, back in NA, people had more stats and access to better IM items to increase their success rate.

Gem 9/10 are also too weak compared to Max stats. For some of them, we would like to buff them so the difficulty match the power it gives.

Unless we make it 100% success rate, some of us will have to fail them for the rest of us to appreciate a success.

We've heard a lot of good ideas from the community, Epic Hammers, more CON oriented gear for artisan, chemicals giving better % increase with increased quality.
We're looking into the best way to adjust the feeling without making the Gem 9/10 too easy

[first gem 9 crafting experienced (failed attempt)]

Sorry for you loss

We feel you 

[Mounts]

@OukiShougun Most dropable mounts drops from their respective King ! So if you like a mount, try looking for the King or Queen version of the monster ! If you're over the lvl, you can still drop the mount but gets reduced chances of drop.

[Finally a feedback on Astarot Feather farm]

Thanks a lot for the feedback @MeNewbie
Keep in mind that if you farmed with a lvl 250, you are affected by a BIG drop chance reduction compared if you farmed mobs at their right lvl.
This goes for every mobs in the game

[Botting and AFK parties are out of control]

@kaiserkiva Thanks for the report ! 

it's better if the repport is posted here --> https://support.roseonlinegame.com/

[[FR]RoyalBaguette]

Bonsoir à tous 

Nous relançons un clan FR pour la sortie de Rose Online ! 
Nous sommes des joueurs de plusieurs serveurs différents, avec un grand groupe de joueurs qui ont joué ces deux dernières années.
Beaucoup d'entre nous n'ont jamais joué sur Narose ou aucune Version d'Evo, donc on part en full découverte pour beaucoup Il n'y a pas de restrictions pour le Clan, nous acceptons un maximum de joueurs FR et ne demandons rien de particulier, juste de profiter de Rose comme à l'ancienne sans se prendre la tête !!!

On à déjà un Discord avec déjà environ 50 membres, donc ceux qui sont Chaud faites moi signe !