Majestic
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its starting to feel like a Pserver atm idk what to tell you
rose official is rose official and supposed to be Vanilla like NA was
with only little refinement to the system and balancing
but really it feels like a pserver now.... imo it feels so out even without the bugs and login issues
i know its really early i know the game is in his dipers
but for me its not working atm the whole game style.... i still wish it to revert all the way back like NA was
and goodluck to everyone happy gaming guys-
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its starting to feel like a Pserver atm idk what to tell you
rose official is rose official and supposed to be Vanilla like NA was
with only little refinement to the system and balancing
but really it feels like a pserver now.... imo it feels so out even without the bugs and login issues
i know its really early i know the game is in his dipers
but for me its not working atm the whole game style.... i still wish it to revert all the way back like NA was
and goodluck to everyone happy gaming guys -
you all candle candle
what about Moldie king?
the moldie is so iconic on rose we can see him in promos posters trailers everyhwere on rose is moldie
moldie king my choice
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Great idea IMO
im level 82 and kinda stuck cuz there are no spots and add to that people there are over 100 and my level is gap
idu why people on level 115 is forced to stay in luna and why the devs locked eldeon for level 100 players
most players in luna supposed to be around 80-105 max IMO if they are only killing penguins
try to search any players in other areas dread mages any other mobs area are EMPTY
so whats the point of closing gates till 120?
now i cant really form a party cause
1. no spots left
2. level gap
add to that i cant afford gear cuz of High cost and cant find any artisan to craft a good weapon for me
my weapon atk power is 30-40 LMAO so low compare to bourg 100+ ATK power on weapons
BIG DIFF in damage
again impact of unbalance
so gg for me-
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idk if all can be done.... engine and design limitation but pretty good ideas!
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well i reach level 70 and finding myself struggling ALOT with zulie.... i dont think that zulie should be earned only and only by quests and even so... i feel imo its not rewarding enough
compare to system prices meaning Scrolls, Food, Traveling Fees, etc etc,
even after 10 hours play and selling the mats i forced myself to pick up from ground
something u didn't really need or forced to do on NA its not making you enough zulie
so... what is that mean?
that i need to bust my head on krawfy quests?
lets admit... the krawfy dont drop that quest item often idk why even after 1 hour of killing it
its not giving item quest
i cant find any logic that even if i reach level 100 what is the next step? the seond job cost 200K
bros i dont have that amount of zulie cause zulie been removed made it nearly impossible to make a living in game
i really have a fear that i will be stuck
Normally in games you make enough money leveling up to cover your mandatory expenses ie. traveling / pots / scrolls
i really think Zulie Drop should be back again in game or reducing the costs of system prices cause its to HIGH
that is what i feel
and in other topic i think the Level 10 Chicken Mount should be brought back again
my cleric is with 690 MSPD and its feels so slow and time consuming
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1 hour ago, Zeror said:
Upgradable bag space can solve that issue also, at least for the lower levels. Weight is not longer needed.
To make a calculation. You have 5 tabs in total (equipment, consumables, materials, costume and PAT). Each tab has 30 inventory slots. Together you have a total of 150 slots if unified. That a lot of inventory space, really a lot!!!
But before you cheer, the amount of slots can be broken down. Let's say each tab is a bag with item slots. When you start the game at lvl 1 you could start with 1 bag with 30 slots. For a starter this amount is totally fine as you wont have much items on low level. When achieve your first job you could get the second bag. Now you have 60 slots, still a good amount. Somewhere along around lvl 50 or together with completing the cart quest you unlock bag 3. With second job you get bag 4. And bag 5 can be unlockable with a achievement or finding a rare thing or doing a hard thing on high level.Note: Yes, I know different bags would keep the tabs, but can be integrated easier within the current layout i guess.
look what u made it bro
i only suggested to increase the inventory bag and i meant the Equiptment bag not everything else
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44 minutes ago, lazypenguin said:
I think it could be interesting to have a single inventory window instead of the multiple tabs. Don't forget there's a cart tab as well. We're open to a change like this and it wouldn't be too big of a challenge. However, we'd want to hear from the community in general how they'd feel about a unified inventory. I'd also be curious to know the downsides of such a system, I can't think of too many off the top of my head.
i dont understand why dealer and artisan will suffer from 1-2 rows more in inventory
i think its necessary somehow cuz room is filling fast so that could be simple solution -
good one
i hopes the devs will think about it
cuz we really need decent inventory space herei remember myself on NA struggle with it sometimes
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Suggestion about inventory guys as i saw in stream drezy was so packed and full in inventory that he needed to drop so items just to make a reset... maybe you should consider increasing inventory room by 1-2 more rows
cuz as it for now its really low space consider of what you always pick up and sell to NPC
so at least a making it a bit bigger only by 2 more rows tops-
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28 minutes ago, X15 said:
I donât understand why people want to have the old clerics in a new game. Itâs honestly toxic as heck to make the whole game revolve around one class (cleric giving out all the buffs). Why would people want to play a game that requires two windows or be screwed unless they get buffed by someone else who owns a max buff cleric?Â
ÂPersonally, I think all the buffs should be consumables and have easy access by all classes or have an NPC that gives out 2 hour buffs every couple of minutes in every major city.
Or better yet, remove all the buffs and scale the game without buffs so that you donât have to seek buffs to play the gameâŠ
People like me just want to get on, play, level up, clear stuff without tabbing through multiple clients or spam âbuffs plsâ in a major city.
kinda funny u say new game lol srsly
its not a new game my buddy
its reopening old game from 2003-2005
and people had fun back there till the end of NA a few years ago
cleric was the most wanted class it was fun class you could do battle cleric you could do support cleric
most useful skills of him was the buffs 10-12 buffs and they even had unique skills to reduce the amount of clicks
so 1-6 gives all buffs... then you can heal maintain party bonefire thats was his JOB
the people who didn't want to buff can go other classes there is planty
so again i dont get it why dividing those so important skills of the cleric to all classes i cant agree with that move
and i will give a feedback after EA and other people will see its just dont work
only the real OG that likes cleric can understand how Viable are the buffs is for cleric thats what i think
and i hope for the best to this game i trust the devs to understand that eventually-
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3 minutes ago, SteveOmaha said:
Clerics had buffs removed and some started whining about the change but I haven't really seen any whining about their class having buffs added to their skill trees. Skill point usage will have to be adjusted across all builds now. Simply a new challenge.
you mean new mess? lol
as i said with respect lets agree to disagree my friend peace and love everything is ok
i cant be at peace with this change i loved the cleric as it was
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Just now, Whoop said:
Because you will be reliant on always needing a cleric for gameplayÂ
thats what makes cleric wanted and welcomed
and bro i was a soldier before cleric
and i never had any problem to level up without a cleric
everyone in party used their on self buff and we manage perfectly
later on higer level yes we needed a cleric nothing wrong with that
cuz cleric buffs are effective only on higher levels 180-200
after u finish a bit to max the skills
and now everyone buffs?? ITS A JOKE MAN ITS A MESS-
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4 minutes ago, Whoop said:
Maybe read his post a bit more carefully....Â
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Also there are always buff pots in the game to balance accordingly
why i need to use buff pots sir when there is special class for it since day 1 cleric was made for it to help the party and buff them heal them support from the sidelines
why i need to rely on buff pots?
bro srsly its messed up and i just cant .... cant
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10 minutes ago, L3nn0x said:
I don't think it was fine before though? You had to play with buffs on to be able to level up otherwise you'd just die & it'd take forever. So you had to level up a cleric at the same time, or have a friend playing cleric, or ask for buffs in Junon before going xp. You couldn't realistically play without a cleric. Our idea with the change was to make clerics less preponderant in the game. They're still required at high level in raids & dungeons, but you don't need to have one to level up as a casual player anymore.
Maybe it's not a good idea and we'll run a survey after EA starts to see how the community feels about the change, but we do want to change this buff-centric meta that's been running since forever in the game.
and now you dont need to ask for buffs?
you need it even more and search for 4 different classes for buffs
you see me now chasing a hakwer for speed buff or attack speed?
what cleric have to do besides heal?? attack? its not a a fighter its a cleric supporter class and you made him out of mage sub class
sorryL3nn0x i dont like it
lots of players gave you lots of pointers of how bad it is and how bad its gonna be later on....
and i already said its not fair to us players the ones of other side that enjoyed been a buffer to cast us aside
basically you want to remove dual client and remove all buffs entirely
you can just change the gane name to ROZ online cuz its definitely not rose online if you give it a new face -
3 minutes ago, TheShredr said:
You are betting quite a lot, upping the score from 23 to 30, reacting to my post while the majority of your reaction isn't on topic to what I was posting.
PS. most people that voted no has like FAKE profile !!
without even one comment ... most of them are not even active profiles
so its not even accurate to say its 50
ok i will create now 100 fake profile and vote YES for revert
broo most of those votes are faked!!
bring back all the OG player they wil tell you in your face its wrong move on cleric
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32 minutes ago, TheShredr said:
I need to react to this, since you are not talking facts in some particular parts, and this really annoys me:
They are closing the topics because people are violating the rules in not respecting each other. Next to that, the vote they did close, was heavily in favor of supporting the way they go.
Yea, sir, heavily successful server with a messed up economy, people keep playing this because there is no good alternative and they have such amount of time invested already, hugely p2w features, should I go on?
Please get your facts straight before you post such and immense disrespectful post.
lets agree to disagree
the buffers in this forum even if its not the majority 50 against 30 and i bet not all the 1K in the discord saw this messed up change
if all the 1K will see this change and react i can bet you that most of them will be against this change Kapish?
we dont love this change and we feel the devs forcing us into this and the other hand just slap us and saying if you dont like our plan go play something else
gee thanks..... thanks for destroying all of our childhood fun game for mixed up classes when it was totally fine before
and the devs could do tons of other ideas that keeps cleric as it is and choose different idea without the need of removing anything
again we agree to disagree and only time will tell if this game survive like that and i wish the devs goodluck in that process i really hope for the best
PS. most people that voted no has like FAKE profile !!
without even one comment ... most of them are not even active profiles
so its not even accurate to say its 50 -
20 minutes ago, X15 said:
Standing still, spamming buffs every 5 minutes is worse than âheal botsâ. Healing can be fun if you make it hard. Timing heals, dropping HoTs on time, keeping people alive under heavy damage/boss fights. But yes, adding new skills would be great although I donât know how much work that is to add new skills.
ÂEasiest thing to do is to just add hard, rewarding content that requires hardcore healing. That would make a cleric fun to play. Healing = Support.Â
for you its worse sir... for everyone else that likes to buff its the whole world of fun to keep buff and heal and bonfire more things to do then just heal.... and on higher levels you just put lots of salamander and u dont even need to heal.... bruh pls understand the mess its going to cause
giving only 1 activity to do is worse then ever
and i liked buffing everyone and doing healing and maintain the party together
cleris is not just buff he is kinda leader
if you cant get it im sorry but i cant accept it-
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5 minutes ago, X15 said:
Guys,Â
Buffs getting spread out throughout the classes will only be great at launch when there is a ton of players at each level range to party up with. It will be easy to find different classes because itâs launch and everyone is playing different classes.
ÂBut what about later on? There will be a time when every party is going to be missing a specific class in order to be fully buffed. People will get too far ahead of the pack in leveling or fall too far behind. What if youâre alone in an area, how are you going to buff up? You will have SLOW, painful progress.
Spreading out buffs or having clerics posses all the buffs lead to a big issue of making the game scale around buffed characters/parties.Â
My suggestions are either to remove buffs completely and scale the game without buffs or to make all the buffs become consumables which can be easily available to all classes on demand (bought from an npc).
To counter the clericâs uselessness, all you have to do is add content that requires ACTIVE healing. Like adding group activities (dungeons) which require clerics to make sure the party stays alive, and are otherwise unclear-able if you donât have capable healers.
ÂYou can make it even more interesting and give clerics more support skills like protection bubbles and healing over time skills, etc etc. That would keep clerics on their toes while partying up (not just stand still and buff) and also keep their demand high for partying.
i can support and agree on that
dont neglect cleric and just say we are removing his buffs and thats it thats the final build
cuz his whole thing was to support and without buffs he only left to be healer bot and i hate it deeply!
but if you remove all buffs from all classes and give cleric other skills to support besides healing thats ok and im all for it.... dont leave us just to heal its boring and not unique
that means u need to balance a bit the movement speed and attack speed this most important
cuz im not gonna chase after hawker everytime i need speed and im not going to chase artisan for buff potions when before i could do that on my own with my cleric-
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32 minutes ago, Ashura said:
As I am writing this there is so many things going through my mind as to what I want to say regarding this post and I do not have the time to write an entire essay on your post.Â
I am a cleric main, actually I main all my characters I take the time to understand its pros and cons and build according to my liking of playing the class do I take a deep dive into the class and try and make the perfect build? No I don't because I have an actual life and family and friends that want my attention as well. The little time I do have to play I try and enjoy it as much as possible. This might sound rude to you but I am still going to say this. If you are opposed to what the team is doing then go play a pServer and complain about the dificiencies their server has because that is how it goes in every single version/server of the game. Better yet why don't you go to Gravity and make a proposition to them, have a roadmap handy to show them what your vision of the game should be. Who knows perhaps they will grant you permission to be in direct competition with these guys and maybe something far better will come out of it all.Â
It's easy to say why don't you go this route that route with the game implement this and that make this or that, but where is the time to do all those things nevermind resources and staff to Jetstream it in let's say by the 13th of December when Rednim launched EA. Those are all things the devs have thought about and no matter how much you/we want to know how Rednim came about the license for the game. The only mistake I see the devs have made was announcing the return of Rose and didn't expect this much interest in it but that is also a very good thing it means they can grow and we as a community should help them grow.Â
I hear what your concerns are and understand it all trust me I do, but please take time to listen to other opinions that do not align with yours, stop just throwing your toys of the cot. You want the devs to respect your concerns and wishes so do the same. Play the game and decide afterwards, don't just be part of the heard and just shout without thinking things through I am sure if you want the devs to explain why the changes and what their ideas are behind it all they will take the time to explain and if you don't like it decide what is the best course of action for yourself.Â
I read in discord how a select few are trying to question the legitimacy of the team and question their ability to handle the project. (Major gaming companies take years making a game with bigger staff and deeper pockets and still fail). Give them time to prove you right or better yet give them time to prove you WRONG. The few changes they have made already shows that they care about the game.Â
Sorry Bobbity for the lack of grammar in this post.Â
nothing is easy my friend.... but its far too easy not to mess with classes that doesn't need a revamp
and hurt the other side of player that do like cleric as it is sir... to buff heal and now he is just a doll of healing bot
what would u do after second job without buffs?? been mage 2.0?? cuz u only left with attack skills and heal right??
so what would u do my friend?
why removing an essential part of what cleric is just to please some angry rants "buff slave" people and hurt other players
this is not the solution bro
its not too hard to comprehand and understand that remvoing buffs is a BIG MISTAKE and not close to a solution about slaves -
5 hours ago, SteveOmaha said:
Just play the game and see before whining sheesh. Or don't play and move on. It's a free game
really dude really immature comment and sad i feel really bad for you seriosly
that attitude wont help the devs and its not going to help the community of rose online
leave the cleric class alone stop messing with classes, you can only refine them not revamp and changing the whole playstyle, cuz rose playstyle was unique and fun as it as
devs need to focus on conntent and story bugs everything around rose and not classes
classes are nostalgia that doesn't need anything but refinement a bit and balance cooldowns or adding more skills
i hope for revertion
if you so open minded try that point of view and leave us alone with our fun
if you dont like cleric playstyle i will use ur comment dont play -
7 hours ago, LordAlbion said:
You never "NEEDED" a cleric to lvl. It was faster, yes, but def not needed. And I as well as many other clerics would spend alot of time going around and buffing people. That was fun!
im really struggle with people that keep saying "needed needed it was forced to open a cleric"
no, no one pointed a gun to you
and you can perfectly clear the game and go level 250 without a cleric
cause there was always a party spot everywhere with a cleric in party to buff you and u just needed to attack
cleric was everywhere and you didn't need to open one for yourself to level up cuz there is someone else with a cleric just buffing you up if its on side on group or in party
and now what i can really see its going downwards and muse will be stuck at level 100 cuz his second job was focus on buff and now he doesn't have those abilities
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10 minutes ago, Forestwithin said:
you do realise you will play pretty much the same way but not have all the buffs?Â
And i mean, just try it out.Â
You might even enjoy it more then what you did before?Âno disrespect my friend i truly acknowledge and understand you but i cant agree on it
i played since the first rose iRose till the last rose NA
and i know sir that its going to be a mess and i will not like it a bit
cuz i liked to be a buffer later on higher end game
if there are no buffs what i have left to do bro?? tell me what? been a bot healer for the rest of my cleric life??
PLEASE DONT PLEASE SEE THE BIG PICTURE they are destroying one of the core classes that makes rose online "rose online" one of epic classes and fun moments are with this class!! with his abilites
sorry dear friend i cannot accept this and i cannot find any fun with healer only
if i wantd to attack and do damage i would go mage
i dont need another another mage subclass-
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7 minutes ago, Forestwithin said:
Oh god.. why are you so afraid of changes?Â
and after you buffed everyone in your party, what did you do then? just stood there? healed everyone?Â
Because you will literally do the same as before except the buffing part.Â
But yeah, keep going on with that mindset if you want to.Âofc not
i maintain the bonfire
and just so you know the Buffer thing is not even effective on lower levels... only on mid 150-180 it becomes something
cuz only after a second job you open the majority of buffs and you need to level them up
so what u want me to play till 200 a healer only?? cmom give me a break and stop messing and destroying the most class i love and care about
and another thing I NEVER SOLO WITH MY CLERIC i always looked for party to help with even newbies
i never did 1-12 finished buff and AFK noo i was doing healing and bonefire sometimes you revive
and ofc i bring my other toon soldier cuz its allowed and fight with him and keep healing but i dont want to be a healer bot with no buffs breaking my head and asking for 4 chars to buff
by that you make them some kind of buff slaves
Fellas, You Done Goofed.
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IMO i really dislike the changes
the people here the community here said their word! they want the old cleric back there is a poll on it
but devs listen to themselves atm.... at least NA was still alive back then and fun to play and random help newbies buffing them and do something
now im not feeling any fun to even level up and max
i stopped at 180
i want some old aspects back in game